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I am musing about what could the transitive version of the verb drop (release from hand to fall to the ground) look like. Lanta- looks purely intransitive. The root KHAT contains among its glosses "loose from hand", but KHAT is our only root (as far as I can tell) that provides the space for verbs throw/hurl, and I think those are quite different from drop.
If we look to DAT that could provide something like *dat-tā but I believe that would ultimately yield *lasta- which is already taken - unless *latta- is also a possibility?
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The primitive dat-tā would…
The primitive dat-tā would indeed produce lasta-. The form latta- is unlikely as a verb, since it requires lengthening of the t as opposed to suffixion.
In QL the verb lant- is glossed both “fall” and “drop”, so perhaps lanta- can be used both transitively and intransitively.
Alternately there is a Gnomish verb dod- glossed “drop” (and “fall down”). I use dod- “drop” in Neo-Sindarin. Its Neo-Q. equivalent would probably be lot- from DOT.
In reply to The primitive dat-tā would… by Paul Strack
Thank you, Paul. On that…
Thank you, Paul.
On that basis my neologism *satta- should also be rejected, or updated to *sasta-?
I am not entirely happy with using lanta- as a transitive verb, but I also don't know which is "better": use lanta- as transitive, or derive *lot- from DOTO.
In reply to Thank you, Paul. On that… by Atwe
Hmm. A verb with tt isn’t…
Hmm. A verb with tt isn’t impossible, since we have mitta-, but I think that’s a verbalized adjective since it’s derived from the root MI. Primitive sat+tā should probably be sasta- in both Quenya and Sindarin. I can update these in Eldamo if you like.
As for Neo-Q. lanta- “drop” vs. lot- “drop”, I agree neither are particularly appealing. In Eldamo right now I have lanta- “drop”. However, I am leaning more in the direction of lot-, but could be easily persuaded by another neologism with a more recent etymology.
In reply to Hmm. A verb with tt isn’t… by Paul Strack
The only one I can think of…
The only one I can think of right now is undulerya- "release down(wards)" which feels rather clumsy, although there is undulav- as a model.
Or to go for a rare instance of a -yā causative? Although that would yield *latya-, wouldn't it, which is again taken.
In reply to Hmm. A verb with tt isn’t… by Paul Strack
Oh, and yes, please, let's…
Oh, and yes, please, let's change *satta- to *sasta- as a more plausible form. sasta, sastane, asastánie
Thanks!
In reply to Oh, and yes, please, let's… by Atwe
It’s been updated for the…
It’s been updated for the next release of Eldamo